The House That Craig's List Built
Have champagne tastes and a beer
budget? Craig’s list can help with all of your home-building material needs (if
you follow a few smart tips).
OK. I admit it. I am a Craig’s list
addict. I have bought (and sold) so many items that I’ve lost count. But, the
biggest compulsion to surf the listings has come from my extensive house
renovation and the need to buy lots of materials—soup to nuts—on the cheap. How
else could a Franco-file like me who loves Provence-style architecture and
décor acquire reclaimed terra cotta tiles from a French chateau for one-tenth
of what they cost in the real-world? Or, get a Liebherr fridge for hundreds,
instead of thousands of dollars? Or, get nearly a whole house’s worth of
stain-grade, arched French doors and casement windows for $500 total? Craig’s
list.
But, this free listing service is
not without its downsides and pitfalls. Of course, there is no return policy on
Craig’s list. Whatever you buy is yours to keep—or resell as the case may be. And,
of course, there’s the human factor. Most people are honest and trustworthy,
but some just aren’t. Craig’s list killers aside, most people are regular folk
just like you and me. But, you do have to keep your street-smart commonsense
radar on high. (See sidebar for safety tips). This is all about getting
deals—not steals.
Disclaimers aside: Over the years,
I’ve had a great time shopping, scored some awesome stuff and have met some
interesting, quirky, fun people to boot. I’ve also made some mistakes, bought
some duds and have therefore, discovered a few how-to tips to getting what you
want—in great condition—for less.
Here’s a list of some of my top
tips.
Tip No.1: The More You Can
Surf, the Better.
Remember Tom Hanks’ desert-island
character in the movie “Castaway”? He got up every day just to see what useful
stuff the tide would bring in. Think of searching for stuff on Craig’s List the
same way. Check online first thing in the and before you go to bed. And,
sometimes you’ll be surprised what you can find any time during the day. If
you’re one of the first to call about an item, you increase the odds that
you’ll score it—especially if it’s a really amazing bargain.
TIP No.2: Know How to Search. The best spot to look for home
materials is in under “Materials” in the “For Sale” items section. If you want
the best deals, search only “Materials by owner.” This will filter out many
(but, not all) retail stores using Craig’s list as a free advertising tool.
When plugging in key words, you may want to keep it broad. If I’m looking for
an arched door, for example, I’ll plug in “arch” to expand the number of items
that will come up. Some people don’t use the term arch, however, so you can
also get creative and plug in “rounded” or “curved” or even “circle.” I’ve
happened upon some interesting materials that I likely wouldn’t have found just
by running down the full materials list because I misspelled them.
Intentionally misspelling a keyword can sometimes bring up a gold mine.
Tip No.3: Do Your Homework.
Remember, you’re on Craig’s List for the deals. It doesn’t make sense to buy from
this listing service with all of the risks involved (again, there is no return
policy) if you’re not paying substantially less than retail. So be sure to know
what stuff costs in the real world. Don’t know? Google it. And don’t just
google one store. Google a couple to get a good range in price.
Tip No.4: Expand Your
Search. Didn’t find what you need? Try looking in a different, but nearby
city. The list is located at the far right of the main page of Craig’s list.
Occasionally, your search will include (at the bottom) items from nearby areas
anyway. If it’s not too far, it may be worth the drive. And it never hurts to
ask the seller if he or she will be in your area, or wouldn’t mind meeting you
halfway. You won’t know unless you ask.
Tip No.5: Don’t Fall for This Hummer Trick (I Did)! I once
purchased a waterfall faucet from a seller who met up with my husband and I in
a park. He arrived in a shiny, new Hummer and seemed bent to impress us on
talking about his wealth, including mention that his backyard was as big as the
park we were meeting at. That should have been a red-flag right there. He told
us the faucet he had (still in the box), which he displayed to us in the back
of his pretty hummer, cost in the thousands. I wasn’t so sure and should have
trusted my gut. I said “no” at first to the deal. My husband tried to negotiate
a lower price. The guy hotly disagreed and then, drove off, only to return a
minute later, agreeing to the lower price. We bought the faucet for the lower
price, but it was no deal. A google search of the brand later proved we
overpaid by $40 retail. What a shame! We won’t do that again. The tip here:
Know what stuff costs ahead of time and trust your instincts. If something
doesn’t feel right: Walk away.
Tip No.6: Check Out the Free Stuff.
Craig’s List has a “free” section
under all “For Sale” items. This is a place where people just want to get rid
of stuff. Often, they’ll put their goods in an alley or on their front curb and
send out a Free Curbside Pick Up Alert. I got two truckloads of river rocks for
free once by finding one of these postings. A property manager of a ranch in
Malibu was looking to do some landscaping and clear the property of rocks. My
husband and I rented a truck and acquired several tons, which we later used to
build a custom waterslide and waterfall in the backyard. We nabbed for free,
what would have cost us thousands from a building supply shop.
Tip No.7: Negotiate, Negotiate, Negotiate.
Hey, this is Craig’s list, not Home
Depot. You’ll never know how low someone will go in price unless you ask.
Often, sellers just want to get rid of their stuff to clear out space and
they’re happy to see it go. Or, their wives are. Don’t underestimate the power
of a clean garage. We once negotiated free delivery because the item (an entire
kitchen’s worth of cabinetry from a showroom display from a store that went out
of business) was being stored at a facility that was costing the seller money
every month. He delivered it for free just to empty out the storage unit!
Also, keep in mind that Craig’s
list shows when an item was posted online, so you may have more negotiating
leverage with a item that’s been online for awhile. While listings get deleted
after seven days and have to be reposted, you’ll begin to notice items that
haven’t sold because you’ve seen their listing reappear for weeks or even
months.
Tip No.8: It Pays to Have a Truck. Our family has a Jeep, not a
truck. So, some big building materials we’ve purchased have required that we
rent a pick-up. Home Depot rents trucks by the hour, but it may take you
several hours to complete your delivery. To get a house-worth of windows and
doors, we had to rent a pretty big U-Haul. But, we once picked up a seven-foot
kitchen island (see pic below) by renting just the trailer. They cost just a fraction of what a
vehicle costs (ours cost just $15 per day) and there’s no mileage fee. But you
will need a trailer hitch that can pull it—and be somewhat coordinated to pull,
park and maneuver them, especially if you need to do a lot of backing up.
You should also factor in weight.
Items, such as stone, bricks and even roof tiles are heavy and the vehicle you
have—or rent—needs to be able to handle the total load, which can easily be
several tons. Not just any pick-up can handle a ton.
When you consider the cost of an
item, always consider transportation. How much gas is it going to cost to get
you there and back? Add that to the cost. And, of course, if you have to rent a
vehicle, that fee could be significant.
Be Smart, Be Safe When Meeting
I’ve never had any problems with
Craigslisters (other than the huckster with the Hummer mentioned above), but
that doesn’t mean that there aren’t nut jobs out there. When making a plan with
a seller to meet, use your street smarts and common sense. If a seller just
sounds “shady,” don’t meet—no matter how great the deal. Getting something on
the cheap is a powerful motivator, but don’t let it over-ride your natural
commonsense or gut feeling about a person or situation. In general, here are a
few safety guidelines:
• Don’t go alone. I always bring my husband with me and he’s 6’4”.
He’s an engineer by education, but he’s also an actor. The parts he gets cast
for are Russian mafia hit men, prison wardens, executioners and cops. The dude
is scary so people don’t mess with him. If you have a friend like this—bring
him along.
• Meet in public places when you can. For smaller items, meet up at
a public place where lots of other people are located. Any Starbucks parking
lot is often a popular meeting spot—it’s where we picked up a range hood once (see pic below).
Only meet at a park if it’s a busy one and it’s not at night.
• Always bring your phone (with the seller’s cell phone number
programmed). Sounds like a no-brainer, but it helps when you call the seller
just a few minutes before you arrive at a meeting location to give them a
courtesy ETA (or if you’re running late in traffic). (How many people say they’ll
be somewhere and then flake? By calling when you get close, you convey to the
seller that you’re one of the “descent” folk.) You can also call if you just
can’t find your meet up location and need some help. Word to the wise: Always ask
what kind of car they’re driving so the two of you don’t sit in a parking lot
looking for each other.